Legislature(2003 - 2004)

03/18/2003 01:47 PM House FIN

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CS FOR SENATE BILL NO. 20(FIN)                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     An Act  relating to  the Board of  Marine Pilots  and to                                                                   
     marine pilotage;  extending the termination  date of the                                                                   
     Board of  Marine Pilots; and providing for  an effective                                                                   
     date.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
ZACH  WARWICK, STAFF,  SENATOR GENE  THERRIAULT, stated  that                                                                   
under  AS 08.03.010(10),  the  Board of  Marine Pilots  (BMP)                                                                   
will terminate  on June 30, 2003.   A report released  by the                                                                   
Legislative  Budget  and Audit  (LBA)  Committee  recommended                                                                   
that the Legislature  extend the board's termination  date to                                                                   
June 30, 2007, and that HB 32 would do that.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Warwick  continued,  the  regulation  and  licensing  of                                                                   
qualified  marine pilots  benefits  the  public's safety  and                                                                   
welfare.  The steady increase  in the tourist passenger ships                                                                   
in  recent  years  has  made  BMP's  role  increasingly  more                                                                   
important.  The board provides  reasonable assurance that the                                                                   
individuals licensed  to pilot  passenger and cargo  ships in                                                                   
Alaskan waters are qualified to do so.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CAPTAIN  DALE  COLLINS,  PRESIDENT,  SOUTHEAST  ALASKA  PILOT                                                                   
ASSOCIATION, KETCHIKAN,  spoke in favor of SB 20.   He stated                                                                   
that he  had been a pilot  in Southeast Alaska for  25 years.                                                                   
He  noted  that  his  association  has  a  responsibility  to                                                                   
provide pilot service to foreign  flagships of 300 gross tons                                                                   
or  more in  the Dixon  entrance  to Southeast  Alaska.   The                                                                   
original  pilots   act  was  created  in  1970   through  the                                                                   
legislature and has  been working well ever since.   He urged                                                                   
passage of the bill.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Foster referenced  correspondence from  House                                                                   
Speaker Brian  Porter and  asked what  had happened  with the                                                                   
exemption  request for  the private  motor  yachts.   Captain                                                                   
Collins  responded that  there is interest  in providing  for                                                                   
those private  motor yachts  and that they  are exempt  up to                                                                   
300  gross tons.   He  pointed  out that  concerns have  been                                                                   
raised regarding  homeland security and that  no language has                                                                   
yet been added to address a sunset to the bill.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
KATE   TESAR,    LOBBYIST,   ALASKA   YACHT    SERVICES   AND                                                                   
PROVISIONING, JUNEAU,  commented that she represents  a small                                                                   
local  Juneau business,  which  works with  yacht  management                                                                   
companies  throughout   the  United  States,   booking  large                                                                   
pleasure craft coming to Alaska.   She stated that they fully                                                                   
support the Board of Marine Pilots  and support the extension                                                                   
of that  board.  Ms. Tesar  addressed recommendation  #4 made                                                                   
by the LBA Committee, which calls  for the State to implement                                                                   
a waiver system for some large pleasure craft.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Tesar  explained that some  owners are considering  other                                                                   
destinations  rather  than  Alaska  because  of  a  law  that                                                                   
mandates a  marine pilot  be aboard  certain size yachts  the                                                                   
entire time  they are in Alaska.   In some cases,  the cruise                                                                   
time last  a number of  weeks.  Many  of the owners  position                                                                   
their boats in  Alaska during the summer months  and then fly                                                                   
their  guests and  family  back  and forth.    She noted  the                                                                   
change to  the statute, which  would allow vessels up  to 200                                                                   
feet to operate  in the Alaskan waters without a  pilot.  She                                                                   
advised that  such a system has  been operating in  the State                                                                   
of  Washington   for  many  years.     She  referred   to  an                                                                   
application in  member's files from the State  of Washington.                                                                   
(Copy on File).                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Tesar  indicated that  the rewrites  of the marine  pilot                                                                   
laws  had been  in  response to  the Exxon  Valdez  incident.                                                                   
Following that, a  rewrite was done in 1995.   Prior to 1995,                                                                   
all  pleasure craft  were exempt  from marine  piloting.   In                                                                   
1995,  a decision  was  made to  mandate  pilots for  foreign                                                                   
plate vessels  over 300  tons.  She  recalled, at  that time,                                                                   
there was a  large private research vessel in  Alaska raising                                                                   
concerns  regarding such  activities.   It was  at that  time                                                                   
that the  law was  changed to  mandate a  marine pilot  be on                                                                   
board of larger  vessels.  She added that in  1999, there was                                                                   
an  extension  of the  board  and  that  none of  the  issues                                                                   
regarding marine pilotage had been addressed.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Tesar advised  that the issue is an  economic development                                                                   
concern.   These pleasure  craft bring  new money into  shore                                                                   
side  communities.   It is  estimated that  the yachts  spend                                                                   
about 30% over the cost of the  trip in the port communities.                                                                   
Because  of the Gulf  circumstances,  this summer the  United                                                                   
States will be a destination of choice for many of boats.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Tesar referenced  the  letters  of support  in  member's                                                                   
files  from   the  various  communities  and   their  mayors.                                                                   
(Copies on  File).  She urged  that capturing new  revenue in                                                                   
these communities be a major consideration.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Williams  asked if  there  were any  exempt  yachts                                                                   
being  used.    Ms. Tesar  responded  that  all  commercially                                                                   
designated  vessels are  mandated  to have  pilots on  board,                                                                   
previously designated as pleasure  craft only.  She explained                                                                   
that foreign-hulled pleasure craft  up to 300 tons are exempt                                                                   
and that all American vessels  are already exempt from marine                                                                   
pilotage.  The  only ones that must have pilots  on board are                                                                   
the foreign plate vessels over 300 tons.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Harris asked  why the American  flagged ships  were                                                                   
exempt  from the  pilotage requirement.   Ms.  Tesar did  not                                                                   
know for  sure but speculated that  it might have to  do with                                                                   
impeding commerce between states  and nations.  She suggested                                                                   
that the  Board of Marine Pilots  answer that question.   Co-                                                                   
Chair  Harris commented  that his  biggest concern  regarding                                                                   
the ships was one of "safety".                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stoltze  mentioned the Coast Guard  waiver for                                                                   
the Canadian vessels.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
JEFF  WHITE,  MANAGER,  SEADROME   MARINE  COMPLEX,  GOLDBELT                                                                   
CORPORATION,  JUNEAU, testified  in support  of the  proposed                                                                   
change to the marine pilotage  law concerning foreign flagged                                                                   
yachts.  He has observed that  vessels become frustrated with                                                                   
current regulations,  and then leave for  "friendlier ports".                                                                   
This past year, 25% of Goldbelt's  moorage business came from                                                                   
yachts  and transient  vessels.   Most travel  from the  East                                                                   
Coast  to visit  Alaska,  while others  are  on their  maiden                                                                   
voyage after  leaving the  boat builders  in the Puget  Sound                                                                   
area.     The  limited   availability   of  pilots   is  also                                                                   
problematic  for  many  vessels  including  yachts  with  the                                                                   
every-changing schedules.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. White suggested that the independent  yacht visitors have                                                                   
a comparably  greater  positive economic  impact by  spending                                                                   
much time  in Alaska, spreading  their purchasing  power over                                                                   
numerous  businesses  and  communities.     Mr.  White  urged                                                                   
consideration of  the exemption to allow the  market to reach                                                                   
its potential in Alaska.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
PETER CHRISTENSEN, MARINE PILOT  COORDINATOR, BOARD OF MARINE                                                                   
PILOTS, encouraged  the passage  of SB 20.   He responded  to                                                                   
previous  questions  regarding   the  United  States  yachts,                                                                   
indicating  that   the  co-pilotage  law  code   defines  the                                                                   
responsibilities for  marine pilotage between the  states and                                                                   
the federal government.   Federal government  has the control                                                                   
over the U.S. vessels & yachts  and the State has the control                                                                   
over the foreign flagged vessels.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Harris asked  if a ship were over  a certain length,                                                                   
would they then  require a pilot.  Mr.  Christensen suggested                                                                   
that length  could be  better criterion  than gross  tonnage.                                                                   
Representative Foster interjected  that the tonnage had to be                                                                   
over 300 tons to require a pilot.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Harris questioned  why the length of  the ship would                                                                   
be a factor.  Mr. Christensen  responded that current statute                                                                   
indicates gross tonnage, which  is an old method of measuring                                                                   
ships.    It  is  a method  that  has  many  loopholes.    He                                                                   
acknowledged that  length would be  a better way  to measure.                                                                   
The  Coast Guard  establishes  its regulations  based on  the                                                                   
number  of passengers  on board.   He concluded  that if  the                                                                   
statute should change, it would  be more helpful that it move                                                                   
to something more specific such as the length measurement.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Harris  asked if  100  feet  would be  a  break-off                                                                   
point.  Mr.  Christensen stated that the Board  does not have                                                                   
a position on that.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Harris  asked if  there  were situations  in  which                                                                   
pleasure craft could  be allowed to operate  in Alaska waters                                                                   
without  a  pilot  and  if  there  were  any  safety  devices                                                                   
required  to   make  it  more  amenable.     Mr.  Christensen                                                                   
commented  that  there could  be  legal forms  regarding  the                                                                   
captain's  experience and/or that  the ship  could put  up an                                                                   
assurity  bond.   There are  a  variety of  ways to  mitigate                                                                   
these issues.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Harris  reiterated that  his concerns are  about the                                                                   
safety and  security of  the waterways  and the vessel  while                                                                   
maintaining their privacy.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Stoltze interjected that  sunsets are  a good                                                                   
way to handle those types of concern.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Williams noted that CS  SB 20 (FIN) would be HELD in                                                                   
Committee for further consideration.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                

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